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Scotty Cameron advice

MrT said: Hey everyone, I posted a thread earlier, "Am I ready for a Scotty Cameron?" Here's what I am thinking. I went to a few places and tried some Scottys out. I like the Studio Select Newport 2. It just felt really good in my hands and once I got use to it sank every thing. My question is this, The Golfsmith guys suggested a putter to be fitted for me at 2 degrees flat, while another guy said to buy it stock and putt around with it first. He said I can always change it later. any idea if the Scottys and their high toe set up should stay stock or adjusted? also does it hurt to change it? I miss putts right not left. Thanks, Mr T

W*-Golfer said: Quote: Originally Posted by MrT I miss putts right not left. Thanks, Mr T You might being playing the ball a bit too far forward, try bringing it back into the center of your stance if you aren't doing so already.

*racer said: It's never a bad idea to have a putter properly fitted to you.

B*gJim13 said: Quote: Originally Posted by MrT Hey everyone, I posted a thread earlier, "Am I ready for a Scotty Cameron?" Here's what I am thinking. I went to a few places and tried some Scottys out. I like the Studio Select Newport 2. It just felt really good in my hands and once I got use to it sank every thing. My question is this, The Golfsmith guys suggested a putter to be fitted for me at 2 degrees flat, while another guy said to buy it stock and putt around with it first. He said I can always change it later. any idea if the Scottys and their high toe set up should stay stock or adjusted? also does it hurt to change it? I miss putts right not left. Thanks, Mr T Scotty's can be adjusted no prob. You can either spend a TON and send it back to Scotty Cameron directly or find a clubfitter in your area that will bend it for you. I don't know if Golfsmith does this, probably they do but I don't have one in my area. I would buy it and putt around with it for awile before deciding if I want to bend it or not...but thats me.

mdd*bya said: If the toe is up in the air on a Scotty you probably have the ball to far out in front of you. The ball should be right under your eyes as you look straight down. Sounds to me like you are reaching too far out.

J*FF4i said: I pity tha foo who don't buy a Scotty! Buy it, try it, get it fitted if you don't like it.

R*ckford35 said: Quote: Originally Posted by JEFF4i I pity tha foo who don't buy a Scotty! Buy it, try it, get it fitted if you don't like it. I pity the fool who thinks that it's the putters fault when you miss a stroke. Spending money ain't gonna sink putts. R35

J*FF4i said: Quote: Originally Posted by Rockford35 I pity the fool who thinks that it's the putters fault when you miss a stroke. Spending money ain't gonna sink putts. R35 True, but wearing a tophat and monocle out on the golf course looks ridiculous without having a Scotty in the bag.

R*ckford35 said: Quote: Originally Posted by JEFF4i True, but wearing a tophat and monocle out on the golf course looks ridiculous without having a Scotty in the bag. I disagree. If you can sink putts with that $4 garage sale wonder, the top hat and monocle make even more sense. More money to blow on rounds of golf than on a putter that won't sink putts because of the guy swinging it. R35

d*ve. said: Please describe your putting style forward press? hands high? low? jabber? stroker?

J*FF4i said: Quote: Originally Posted by Rockford35 I disagree. If you can sink putts with that $4 garage sale wonder, the top hat and monocle make even more sense. More money to blow on rounds of golf than on a putter that won't sink putts because of the guy swinging it. R35 My philosophy on putters has never changed. I still don't think a Scotty, PING, or any of it makes as much of difference as correct methodology and routine for oneself.HOWEVER, I bought my putter for one reason: She's pretty.

M*nchesterGolfer said: Quote: Originally Posted by JEFF4i HOWEVER, I bought my putter for one reason: She's pretty. I agree with you. Putters are like Women....Some of the Big uns work better and would fit your needs better but I'd rather have a looker than a munter. So if you can find A looker that does just as good of a job, then I know which I want, eye candy!!! :scotty:

n*tuthugame said: Rock is totally making the case I was making in the thread about the Circle T.

R*ckford35 said: Quote: Originally Posted by nututhugame Rock is totally making the case I was making in the thread about the Circle T. It's an endless battle against an army of lemmings. I rarely post in Cameron threads anymore.... R35

J*FF4i said: Quote: Originally Posted by Rockford35 It's an endless battle against an army of lemmings. I rarely post in Cameron threads anymore.... R35 Oh come on! I agree with you, haha. In no way is a Scotty Cameron superior to any other putter.

R*ckford35 said: Quote: Originally Posted by JEFF4i Oh come on! I agree with you, haha. In no way is a Scotty Cameron superior to any other putter. 1 down, 64 gazillion to go... "The cliff is this way, guys!" R35

*clark53520 said: Make that 2 down... Never a fan of SC in the first place...

f*sher said: I've got a putter at home that came as part of a boxed set of clubs. This thing is worth no more than $5. It looks like a copy of a Scotty only it is a cheap casting. From a performance standpoint it is probably no different than a Scotty. With putters it is 99.995% the archer and 0.005% the bow or arrow. Find a putter that fits your eye and stroke and practice with it. Its as simple as that. Doesn't matter weather its a $5 bargain bin find or not. There are much more important golf items to spend your money on that can save you strokes. One of the nutcases I play with has a putter he uses as a gag that is the shape of the male organ. The guy can outputt most people I know using that thing. He pulls that putter out of the bag whenever he is playing with people who take themselves and the game too seriously.

B*gJim13 said: Quote: Originally Posted by Rockford35 1 down, 64 gazillion to go... "The cliff is this way, guys!" R35 LOL This hasn't been discussed in awhile. I loved all the SC's I had. I don't think I putted any better with them, maybe a little but not because it was a scotty, mainly because it was a milled putter with great feel-more than my old Ping Anser 2. But there are plenty of Milled putters with great feel out there. They do hold their value though...

R*ckford35 said: Quote: Originally Posted by fisher It looks like a copy of a Scotty only it is a cheap casting. Oh, the irony in this sentence....:biglol: Quote: Originally Posted by BigJim13 They do hold their value though... Why would you care about value if the putter is in the bag for 40 years? This is what I don't get, people seeing a putter as an investment in terms of $$$, not into their game. Whatever, it is what it is. R35

B*gJim13 said: Quote: Originally Posted by Rockford35 Oh, the irony in this sentence....:biglol:Why would you care about value if the putter is in the bag for 40 years? This is what I don't get, people seeing a putter as an investment in terms of $$$, not into their game. Whatever, it is what it is. R35 How many of us have had a putter in the bag for 40yrs? All I am saying is that as far as milled putters go, if you buy a Scotty for $200 chances are you will be able to sell it for $200-if/when you decide to sell. How many other putters are like that?

R*ckford35 said: Quote: Originally Posted by BigJim13 How many of us have had a putter in the bag for 40yrs? All I am saying is that as far as milled putters go, if you buy a Scotty for $200 chances are you will be able to sell it for $200-if/when you decide to sell. How many other putters are like that? I haven't. But I bet I haven't paid more than $200 for the 5 I have had in the last 25. R35

M*KE1218 said: Quote: Originally Posted by Rockford35 I haven't. But I bet I haven't paid more than $200 for the 5 I have had in the last 25. R35 But seeing as none of them were Scotty Scamerons, they were all garbage.

l*mpalong said: Putters are like women... (Claire, close your ears!!!)If they do what they're hired to do... all is well. The ugly ones... the ones you see on the used racks sporting bumps and bruises... were probably cast off and replaced with much better looking ones. Whether a putter or a driver, we'll give up satisfaction... something really good... for something we can show off. The best looking ones can be high maintenance. If you see a good looking one hanging out with other used ones, somebody else got tired of putting up with their s***!!! If you cheat on your "gamer" with a "looker", somehow... someway... she'll find out. And, it's amazing the retribution a scorned "gamer" can inflict. Tomorrow morning... sober... it's difficult to remember just why you spent $300 for something you could have had for $5 at your neighbor's garage sale. Any chance of winning an argument with a disgrunteld wife or significant other is about the same as winning an argument over the justification to purchasing a Cameron. Let's see... do we prefer natural or implants? Do we prefer forged or cast? We who bag Camerons... or any putter whether a garage sale "gem" or some beautiful work of art... do so because we believe THAT putter gets the ball in the hole with the fewest strokes. In putters, there is no "better"... just because of brand name or advertising. There is "better" IF it makes putts and ONLY AS LONG as it makes putts.

MCD*vis said: My advice: pay less attention to the name on the club and more attention to the number of putts you make with it and how it feels to you when you demo it. If it turns out the one that trips your trigger is a Scotty, then buy it. If it's not a Scotty, then quit looking at Scotty's.

B*gJim13 said: Quote: Originally Posted by MIKE1218 But seeing as none of them were Scotty Scamerons, they were all garbage. I should have known better that to post anything other than my answer to the OP. I am not saying that if its not a Scotty its no good. All I am saying is that they hold their value very well, more so than other clubs. I have had 2 Scotty's, one I bought for $200 and sold for $225. The other I bought for $245 and sold for $255. I didn't putt better with them because they were expensive or hold their value well. I didn't look at them as investments-although some collectors do. I like the look and feel of Scottys and for what I bought and sold mine for I could have bought probably 2 Never Compromise, Odyssey or any number of other Milled putters. Find me a driver, FW Wood, Iron set, wedge or other putter you can buy, play with and then sell for what you paid for it-there aren't any unless its limited run or Tour Issue. I have said this several times. The other thing I have said several times is that I have never putted better than I did with a $2 used spalding putter I had from when I first started playing-http://www.shottalk.com/forum/images/icons/icon11.gif

R*ckford35 said: Jim, I think Mike's comments were somewhat tongue in cheek. No matter, your thoughts are noted. I wish I still had my old Pinnacle putter from the early 80's. Why I gave that thing to my brother is beyond me. R35

B*gJim13 said: Quote: Originally Posted by Rockford35 Jim, I think Mike's comments were somewhat tongue in cheek. No matter, your thoughts are noted. I wish I still had my old Pinnacle putter from the early 80's. Why I gave that thing to my brother is beyond me. R35 I know, I wasn't offended in any way, shape or form. Its funny though we always get back to the same old arguments but its all in good fun and all meant for each other to, in the end, be a better golfer. That's why I love this forum, no matter how much we disagree on a subject we all just want each other to be better golfers and get more enjoyment out of the game.

w*rehair said: From the resident lemming..... I definitely putt better with a Scotty (or Bettinardi, or Byron, or Slighter, or Palombi, or one of Chris & Lamonts creations) if they're standard Scotty specs (35/330/4/71) and high quality milled carbon steel. Also, pretty much all putters that fit those general description (high quality, milled, properly weighted and balanced) are going to cost more. You get what you pay for. I also think that all of us will play better putt, drive, wedge, etc. with better gear. If you like a putter play it, but don't turn your nose up at a good club because it's cool to bash Cameron. That's as foolish as refusing to play a TM driver because they produce a new model each month. BTW, who is this smiley for?:drool:

f*sher said: Quote: Originally Posted by Rockford35 Oh, the irony in this sentence.... Don't forget the full context of my statement in the original post. Quote: It looks like a copy of a Scotty only it is a cheap casting. From a performance standpoint it is probably no different than a Scotty.

ch*mboy2 said: Quote: Originally Posted by fisher Don't forget the full context of my statement in the original post. So, the irony is in that the Scotty you reference is itself a copy of the PING Anser. This also happens to be one of the main anti-Cameron sticking points (besides the price tag).

f*sher said: Quote: Originally Posted by chemboy2 So, the irony is in that the Scotty you reference is itself a copy of the PING Anser. This also happens to be one of the main anti-Cameron sticking points (besides the price tag). $5 Putterhttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...4/100_0702.jpg Cameron putter listed on eBay for $6,999http://i13.ebayimg.com/02/i/001/20/f6/ef3d_1.JPG

W*-Golfer said: I don't understand the "buy it as an investment" attitude? Why not just buy a club which works for you & invest your money elsewhere? I have bought & sold a fair number of clubs, but certainly not with the intention of making money on them. I simply wanted to try them out & if they worked for me, great. If not then they are gone, simple as that. Do I like the looks of the Scottys, sure thing. Would I pay $200 for one? If for some reason I thought it would help me make more putts, without a doubt. That being said, I like my $80 TM just fine.

B*gJim13 said: Quote: Originally Posted by Wi-Golfer I don't understand the "buy it as an investment" attitude? Why not just buy a club which works for you & invest your money elsewhere? I have bought & sold a fair number of clubs, but certainly not with the intention of making money on them. I simply wanted to try them out & if they worked for me, great. If not then they are gone, simple as that. Do I like the looks of the Scottys, sure thing. Would I pay $200 for one? If for some reason I thought it would help me make more putts, without a doubt. That being said, I like my $80 TM just fine. I think my whole comment about holding their value has been taken out of context. I never said it's a great idea to buy Scotty's as an investment. What I said, and this goes to your point, is if you buy a Scotty for $200 to "try it out" and it turns out you don't like it-you have a good chance of getting you're money back-at least more so than buying the hottest new Driver/FW/iron set and playing a few rounds with it. As for the copy part, most putters nowadays are just copies of the original Anser series, every company has to have an Anser style putter-to me that's not an issue.

J*FF4i said: Cameron's, to me, are more of an heirloom thing. Especially since mine is going to be sent in soon for custimization. And yes, I know you can do that with other putters.

f*sher said: Most guys I see with Cameron putters would make alot more putts if they were using one of these......http://www.golfmagic.com/news/images/threeball.jpg

ch*mboy2 said: Quote: Originally Posted by fisher Most guys I see with Cameron putters would make alot more putts if they were using one of these......http://www.golfmagic.com/news/images/threeball.jpg yea... no. I went through a big putter phase and tried that one extensively but I found it to be just aweful (not a fan of the White Steel insert). I opted for a PING Doc17 (makes the 3-ball look small) but in the end I just couldn't handle the sheer size of the thing; especially on lag putts. I recently tried a mid-mallet Odyssey White Hot Tour and quite liked that. Of course, it got me tinkering with the weight on my Cameron (yes, I bought into the hype a couple of years ago) and it turns out that I do better with a heavier headed putter not necessarily a mid-mallet. The Odyssey went up for sale and a taped up Cameron went back into my bag a couple of months ago.

J*rmour said: Quote: Originally Posted by fisher Most guys I see with Cameron putters would make alot more putts if they were using one of these......http://www.golfmagic.com/news/images/threeball.jpg How do you know? Maybe their stroke doesn't fit the mallet/double bend set up. I will say I've recently got into some cameron stuff. I picked up a santa fe TeI3 on the cheap. Then found a Del Mar 3.5 for a really good price. I like the way they look and feel. Im not a guy that is going to go after a circle t because that is way out of my price range. If I had the extra money would I get one, yes if the style fit my putting stroke. I do like the Rife Abaco and odyssey xg 9 and the sunset beach models. Not saying there aren't a million other putters out there that feel that way I just like the camerons. I think calling leading the lemmings to a cliff is a little harsh. Not everyone who buys a cameron fits that mold.

R*ckford35 said: Quote: Originally Posted by JArmour I think calling leading the lemmings to a cliff is a little harsh. Not everyone who buys a cameron fits that mold. J, Knowing my history and my thoughts on the Cameron legacy, I think it's safe to assume that my comment was in jest. Directed, but in jest. :D R35

f*sher said: The thing about these internet forums is people can't tell when you are poking fun........ Heck, I would probably make more putts with that giant obnoxious 3-ball putter too.....if only I could stomach putting something that ugly in my bag.